What, if any, IC purchases possible only with IC money?

Ive searched the wiki and the forum and can’t find an answer - maybe people here who have already played events will know?

is there anything that i can spend in character money on, during the weekend, without also needing to spend OOC real cash on at the same time?

Im wondering about how the immersion is maintained in say, an IC Tavern - does such a thing exist, and if it does, can i buy drink with IC money… do i then get my card out and chip n pin for the round?

Yes, lots of things. Pretty much any of the game items: mana crystals, Liao, the eight materials that are used for magic items, the five physick/apothecary herbs, potions, can be bought and sold easily. Is there anything in particular you meant?

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Im wondering about how the immersion is maintained in say, an IC Tavern - does such a thing exist, and if it does, can i buy drink with IC money… do i then get my card out and chip n pin for the round?[/quote]

In my experience, it has been IC payment OR OOC payment only (never both)

Vendors in the OOC area are fully OOC. Pay them in pounds and eat OOC.

Vendors in the main square like The Old Forge tavern and Tykes feasting hall will take OOC money, then hand you your food and drink. But as they’re in the IC area so you’re eating in character, the staff are characters and so on.

There are other IC taverns, notably in nation camps, which take payment IC only. So in the Applewood Arms (Marches) or Siege Perilous (Dawn) you hand over your Rings/Crowns, and they hand you your drink. The bars players have arranged for the OOC cost of the drink, so you can enjoy spending IC money (only) on booze!

Well I’ve bought booze, tea, cake, a bacon butty, IC newspapers and magazines and a head massage for someone with IC money without needing to spend OOC money. The service industry is quietly thriving away and people are willing to take your IC money for many things :slight_smile:. Oh taking your own tankard around the taverns can be useful as well.

Many taverns are purely IC.

Also every Saturday there is a great auction.

The Auction is for purely IC money and the Only thing they don’t sell is Alcohol.

Absolutely everything else!

Including a private dance from a very colourful and talented lady from the brass coast.

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in brass coast alone with have all sorts of jewellery and clothing, alcohol, tea, food, services ranging from massages to dancing, party organisation and then add on the PD resources and such, this is pretty much mirrored across anvil.

OC money is also helpfully referred to as ‘Barbarian’ where appropriate, so easy to figure out if they take Imperial or Barbarian without breaking your immersion too much.

Must spend more time in brass coast.

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All the stuff listed is available for IC coin.

BUT I don’t think it’s realistic to just eat food paid for with IC coin all weekend. A slice of cake or a few sweets yes. But for actual meals either take food or go to one of the IC or OOC vendors that take real money.

Drinks are a different matter. There are about 10 IC bars on the field - run by players, fully IC money. Now some often run out of stock by the end of an event but its quite feasible to drink all you want (alcohol or otherwise) all weekend for IC money only.

There was someone doing a packed lunch service for IC money, think they even had an ad in The Pledge, and at previous events I know that some camps have IC hot food stalls too, just a case of going around and making connections.

[quote=“MattD”]All the stuff listed is available for IC coin.

BUT I don’t think it’s realistic to just eat food paid for with IC coin all weekend. A slice of cake or a few sweets yes. But for actual meals either take food or go to one of the IC or OOC vendors that take real money.[/quote]

It’s getting more plausible, restaurants are starting to pop up on field, as well as a number of other forms of savoury food sales.

You would still have to have a business, or be selling your income, to make it work; IC eating isn’t generally going to be particularly cheap

Thanks for all your replies - very interesting!

I was mainly wondering about how the needs of actual commerce affects immersion?

It sounds like many players have addressed this by exchanging ooc expenditure for IC goods and then sell those do purely IC monetary gain, which presumably has enough relevance between games to be a worthwhile act.

Which leads to the next question - what do people do with all the IC cash once the event ends?

It doesn’t affect my immersion too much. One set of tokens or the other, I just keep two money pouches and pay appropriately.

You keep your money between events. It then rolls on to the next event. If you have lots of it, buy a chest to keep it in. If you are the rest of us, your pouch will still probably do.

[quote=“MattD”]All the stuff listed is available for IC coin.

BUT I don’t think it’s realistic to just eat food paid for with IC coin all weekend. A slice of cake or a few sweets yes. But for actual meals either take food or go to one of the IC or OOC vendors that take real money.[/quote]

I know that at the event just gone several people managed to eat purely IC, for IC coin. If you’re willing to hunt things down then you can eat breakfast (bacon roll), lunch (cold mezze platter) and dinner (tagine or similar) for about 10 rings a day. Given that anyone will have at least 18 rings, plus some IC resources that can be sold (or indeed bartered for credit at one of the food stalls or bars) it’s now perfectly plausible to walk around and only spend IC cash over an event. :smiley:

We’ve never fully run out, so feel free to come down and save me from lugging stuff home. :wink:

There are very few actual destroyers of money - you can pay a little on some resources to increase production, and a few people have access to ministries which convert money into resources and then the big destroyer of money is the senate, with infrastructure costing to maintain and construction having labour costs.

In general, coin accumulates through trade until it reaches the bourse level, where it gets spent on bourse resources and then into the senate, where it either returns to the field, the bourse cycle or leaves the system via infrastructure.

Given that my character is a violinist and a member of a League theatre troupe that performs “the art and the Art”, there are some answers that come to mind immediately:

Cheap: go to see a play.
Costly: commission a play.
Variable: pay for a ritual to be done (possibly by means of a dramaturgical play).
Variable: pay for music.

What about gambling?

Are there games of chance involving dice, cards, racing snails etc… or more organised sporting events with a flutter on the side?!?

[quote=“MickoftheLakes”]What about gambling?

Are there games of chance involving dice, cards, racing snails etc… or more organised sporting events with a flutter on the side?!?[/quote]

Different nations have different viewpoints on games of chance; but they’re certainly available on the field, if you’re looking for them.

My character once won a ship in a game of chess.

Admittedly, in backstory rather than on the field, but hey. :wink:

There is at least one casino (or at least something a lot like one).

Since this thread is here I’d like to ask the hive minds opinion on the following things my wife and I have been considering selling.

Sweets (cheap cones for a sugar hit)
Leather Tankard Loops. Something that annoys me and I’d can make for others
A card game (remastered to have a IC theme)
Water bottles (modern water bottles in a sewn cloth bag)

So what would you pay…Do these things make me a meta monster? Generally what do you think?