Can you Hallow an item invisible?

Hi everyone :wave: hope you’re well and looking forward to E1 . Quick magic question , can you hallow an item to make it invisible?

Example - you have an item that protects you from poison , you don’t want anyone to know you’re wearing it so you get it hallowed so the item is invisible. You then wear the hallowed ribbon to represent wearing the item ?

Is this possible ? thoughts?

Thanks for any help!

I thought hallowing just adds an aura to the item which gives a role-playing effect, rather than change it physically in any way. You’d need an aura to encourage someone to ignore the item (a bit like a Somebody Else’s Problem (SEP) field in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy), but I don’t think that would fit into any of the virtues of the Way - it’s the antithesis of Vigilance.

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As Wake points out, Hallowing isn’t gonna be the one here to begin with, as all a Hallowing can do is give an item an Aura of a particular Virtue. In theory, you’d want a magic effect, however, making something invisible is explicitly one of the things that magic in the Empire setting cannot do (See here)

Hiding and obscuring things is the domain of Night magic, and you could, for instance, hide a magic item in a Night Pouch so that nobody will be able to find out that you’re carrying it. The problem there is that magic items generally need you to be wielding or wearing the item for it to have an effect, so you can’t have it hidden while you’re using it.

Diving further into the given example, let’s say you have a Bloodfire Periapt that you’re phys-repping with a necklace. People will notice you’ve got a magic necklace on (just as they would if you were wearing a ribbon to represent an invisible item), but unless they cast Detect Magic, they won’t know what sort of magic it is unless you tell them. This is already not a super common thing, and would be hard to do on the sly, as it requires thirty seconds of spellcasting within touching range of your necklace, but if you especially didn’t want anyone to know you were rockin’ a Periapt, you could get a Night coven to slap Masque of the Blinded Weaver on it. That means if anyone wanted to force out any information beyond the fact that it has a Night enchantment on it, they’d need to employ a stronger divinatory ritual of their own, and at that point it’s probably easier to try and track down the artisan who made the necklace and bribe them for information.

Hope all that is helpful.

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There is no way to make an item invisible in Empire - apart from by hiding it with mundane trickery.

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Thank you everyone that was really helpful !! Think I’ve got a come up with a new game plan and do a bit more research! :pray::blush:

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Also just to be clear, there are no items which magically make you immune to a call. There are items that let you remove the effect or give you a bonus when the effect is on you but they don’t let you ignore a call.

The only thing that can do so is armour, medium armour blocks Cleave and Heavy armour blocks Cleave and Impale. But only when the blow strikes the physical armour.