Still, if we banned cake selling, and there were a cake black market, then I could try and shoehorn in:
Cake is a Made Up drug!"
Ban cake selling?
BAN CAKE SELLING?!?!?
[quote=“Vince”]The only way that IC/OC transaction will impact on the potential pricing/availability of any other trade is if it somehow affects the total cash in circulation (either the thrones to fund it come in from outside extant sources, or the thrones dissappear down a previously non-existant drain).
Relative value is NOT determined by how many potential services you have on offer, provided the currency remains in circulation.[/quote]
I’ve only seen this from the player perspective, but Empire seems like it has a fairly simple economic system, in the sense that coins enter the system, and coins leave the system. For game design, it’s not important how coins move around between entering and leaving, it’s just important that they move around a lot.
Coins will clump and disperse. In Empire, coin doesn’t actually do that much - you can’t eat it, or make potions with it, or make items. All you can do is spend it. A rich character who is unwilling to spend any of their coin isn’t really rich. I am aware of a few wealthy IC bar owners, and the reason that I’m aware of them is that they spend their money. It clumps in their bar, and they disperse it by spending it. It clumps in their bar because people want to be there - many people have booze in their own camp, but are choosing to visit the IC bars for the roleplay. The mercs in my group go on proper pub crawls, and come back with tales of gambling, new friends and receiving strange visions. It doesn’t really matter how and why the money changes hands, so long as there is roleplay created by the transaction.
tl;dr - Cake is just an edible form of tent.
[quote=“DanielW”]Still, if we banned cake selling, and there were a cake black market, then I could try and shoehorn in:
Cake is a Made Up drug!"[/quote]
LMAO!!!
Ahhh Brass Eye, comic genius.
On the other hand a confectionery black market sounds like it could be fun, 
Please, please, don’t go giving my wife crazy ideas…
[quote=“womble”]
Please, please, don’t go giving my wife crazy ideas…[/quote]
Like building a tent out of cake?
I’d totally help with that…
[quote=“Hellcat”]
Please, please, don’t go giving my wife crazy ideas…
Like building a tent out of cake?
I’d totally help with that…[/quote]
Argle. Now you’ve done it. We don’t have space for any more tents in the HG camp. Not even cake ones…
Womble: any tent made of cake is not going to be a problem for very long…
Beat me to it.
Okay, I’ll try and redeem myself by adding something worthwhile to the conversation. As a total LRPing newbie, a fest event like Empire is pretty daunting. The thought of wandering up to established groups and trying to interact with them is slightly terrifying, but having something OC to offer (I’m considering making some jewellery for my group to sell) seems like it might be a little easier. The time and no eye that goes into making the items we’re selling will come out of the time and budget for our costumes, and we will essentially be giving it away- the main benefit I hope we’ll get from it is to make a few connections, get a little RP out of it and ease ourselves into the game.
I don’t think it’s possible to ever have a completely level playing field (even with the jumpsuit and sticks suggestion, there’s still going to be an imbalance, some people will be able to dodge faster or hit harder or hold out longer), but as long as people aren’t ridiculous about it I don’t think it does any harm.
Just to be clear, I’ve not witnessed anything at Empire - probably because I’m far to busy with my character to step foot anywhere near GOD once time in hits. And it seems for Empire PD have put out as clear as they can the expected limitations, which I’m fine with.
Any witnessed such events that earn my ire from people currently NPCing Empire were firmly in the past and other system, and I have no interest in perpetrating a witch hunt now.
To put it into context, I really am talking about the mindset, in Empire terms, of ‘well, there’s nothing in my brief about having any cash, but it clearly states I’m extravagantly wealthy - well, I’ll just take this 100 Throne coin as I pass…’.
I, too, have no interest in a witch hunt, I asked if you had witnessed it at Empire so that, if it had actually taken place, we could escalate it as something that needs to be brought to everyone’s attention as an issue during NPC orientation. I’m sure you can see how such a statement is unhelpful where there is no basis to suggest that sort of mentality has existed in Empire. New players, especially, will read what you said as a current issue 
Still, all clear now~
A 100 Throne coin did show up on the field once, by sheer accident. It was recovered and returned to the Civil Service by someone who was rewarded by the Synod for this Loyal act, if I recall correctly. There’s a great deal of OOC honesty going on out there.
Actually, more than once I regret to say.
My wife found a 100T coin in the Brass Coast camp at the start of E1 (before Time In). It was returned to GOD.
Iulian; is there a Synod reference to that occurrence? I don’t recall one personally, and given the chinese whispers on the one instance I know of, I wouldn’t be surprised if it had been taken grossly out of context.
In any regard, the pervailance of the “I heard someone found a 100 Throne coin”, thankfully, enforces a healthy level of skeptisism in the playerbase against anyone turning up with the coin, especially as no 100 Throne coin has been issued yet.
I am so many levels of happy about that =D
Just to derail slightly …
Why did PD even make 100 Throne coins ?
It’s not that they won’t be useful, they will. But this is a game and I really think 100 thrones should feel like a big bag of clanky money, not just one coin.
Why would they not?
There’s no reason NOT to have one; if you want to carry 25x5 Throne pieces, then do so. If you want 100 Thrones in your bag, do so. No one says “Oh, you’ve got 100 Thrones now? Give it all in and take this big coin.”
The best answer is twofold:
- Badge of Pride for those who get it
- Means that there are more generic level coins available for moving around the field. I mean the last thing we need is someone like me paying for things in 16,000 rings, when instead I can have one big coin that’s bigger than everyone elses and oh look how important I am why is this knife in my stomach?
Yes. I’d prefer a big clunky bag of change!
I think due to selling my stuff IC I’ve got about a throne. But it’s all pretty much in rings.
I’m thinking about selling jewelery next time. But at the moment I help stock The Green Shield.
Hmmm. Coin will always only be coin. Beer tokens, paper to read, entry to a tournament.
There is a big one coming up 
Wealthy prowess? I did toy with the idea of a ring chainmail of Rings!
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I’m so glad the people I’m coming with aren’t on the forums, I’d have them next to me with a whip trying to get a hundred thrones worth of jewellery out of me!